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_:n263548421a84491cbf135a988a4bd2e4xb1 <http://schema.org/text> "son las 5 ye 2 en canada!no se como pero en todo lugar es different! yo so que no puedo escribe muy bein en espanol pero me gusta! adios! Dios te bendiga!\n\nThank you for using the Jiskha Homework Help Forum. Divide the clock in half and use \"y\" for the first half, up to the half hour, and then \"menos\" on the other half! \n\nTo say \"it is\" = es la + una.(It is one o'clock) BUT \"it is\" after one o'clock = \"son las\" + dos, tres, etc. until you get to l:31 = \"Son las dos menos veintinueve.\" (Literally \"it is 2 o'clock minus 29.\") \n\nHalf past is expressed by \"y media\" = Son las seis y media = It is 6:30. A quarter is expressed by \"cuarto.\" Son las diez y cuarto = It is a quarter after ten. \n\nLet us know when you would like other time expressions and/or how to use the 24-hour clock as you would see on timetables for trains, busses, etc. \n\nson las 5 y 2 minutos, son las 5:30=5 y media(half) o las 5 y trenta(30). 5:45.= 5 y cuarenta y cinco minutos o faltan quince(15) para las 5 means 15 to 5. or 5 menos(minus) cuarto" <https://askanewquestion.com/questions/5928>   .
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_:n263548421a84491cbf135a988a4bd2e4xb3 <http://schema.org/text> "To tell time in Spanish, you can follow these guidelines: 1. Use \"es la\" for the first hour (one o'clock). For example, \"es la una.\" 2. Use \"son las\" for all other hours (two o'clock onwards). For example, \"son las dos.\" 3. After the hour, add the minutes using \"y\" (and). For example, \"son las dos y cinco\" means \"it is two o'clock and five minutes.\" 4. To express half past the hour, use \"y media\" (and a half). For example, \"son las tres y media\" means \"it is three o'clock and thirty minutes.\" 5. To express a quarter past the hour, use \"y cuarto\" (and a quarter). For example, \"son las cuatro y cuarto\" means \"it is four o'clock and fifteen minutes.\" 6. To express a quarter to the next hour, use \"menos cuarto\" (minus a quarter). For example, \"son las cinco menos cuarto\" means \"it is a quarter to five\" or \"it is four forty-five.\" 7. You can also use \"faltan\" (lacking) to express the time remaining until the next hour. For example, \"faltan diez para las seis\" means \"it is ten minutes to six.\" These are the basic expressions for telling time in Spanish. Keep in mind that the way time is expressed can vary from region to region, so it's always good to double-check if you are unsure." <https://askanewquestion.com/questions/5928>   .
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_:n437bd0689b5b44d2abf581b2c003ceebxb1 <http://schema.org/name> "intallation canalsat avec ma nouvelle Livebox 5 d'Orange" <https://assistance.canalplus.com/questions/2147660-intallation-canalsat-nouvelle-livebox-5-orange>   .
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_:n437bd0689b5b44d2abf581b2c003ceebxb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,Je viens de changer ma Livebox4 par la LiveBox 5 d'orange.Je suis connecté par la FibreJe reçois bien OrangeTV, mais je n'ai plus accés à canasat.Pouvez-vous m(indiquer la marche à suivre, votre service téléphonique est saturé avec + de 10mn d'attente et demande de rappeler.Merci pour votre prompte réponse" <https://assistance.canalplus.com/questions/2147660-intallation-canalsat-nouvelle-livebox-5-orange>   .
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_:n437bd0689b5b44d2abf581b2c003ceebxb3 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,  espace client page matériel puis déclarez le changement." <https://assistance.canalplus.com/questions/2147660-intallation-canalsat-nouvelle-livebox-5-orange>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/author> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb4 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-03-10T20:17:09+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/name> "Ma glace côté chauffeur descend tout seul lorsque l'on coupe le contact, obligé " <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/suggestedAnswer> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb5 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/suggestedAnswer> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb9 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Ma glace côté chauffeur descend tout seul lorsque l'on coupe le contact, obligé de maintenir le bouton portière pour éviter çà." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb1 <http://schema.org/upvoteCount> "24"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#integer> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb10 <http://schema.org/name> "Denis10" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb11 <http://schema.org/author> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb12 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb11 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-03-10T20:17:09+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb11 <http://schema.org/text> "Il se trouve où le module du moteur ?" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb12 <http://schema.org/name> "Francky" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb2 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb2 <http://schema.org/author> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb3 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb2 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2013-05-22T20:45:13+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb2 <http://schema.org/text> "J'ai le même problème sur mon scenic de 2001, la vitre conducteur descend quand je coupe le contact, le problème s'arrête quand j'ouvre la porte et la vitre ne descend pas si j'ouvre la porte avant de couper le contact. Aujourd'hui en + la vitre arrière droite est descendu toute seule en roulant.\r\n\r\nSi quelqu'un à résolu ce problème, je suis preneur de solution!" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb5 <http://schema.org/author> _:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb6 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb5 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-10-25T14:51:52+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb5 <http://schema.org/text> "si ta vitre latéral descent c est une impulsion électrique de retour et cela indique qu une diode est grillé.pour cela il est domage de changer toute une piece de 40 a 100euros pour un élément  entre 20ctmes a 2 euros.sur un espace on me vendait un leve vitre complet alors que c etait le cable qui etait cassé.chez renault 310euros chez oscaro 130euros et finalement a la casse 10 euros d occasion." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb7 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-05-10T10:19:39+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb7 <http://schema.org/text> "bonjour\r\nc'est un problème connu sur certain modèle de scénic,mon beau  père a eu le même soucis sur son modèle (2004 je crois), vitre chauffeur qui tombe dans la portière.\r\n\r\nLe problème a été pris en charge sous garantie en concession. \r\n\r\ncordialement" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb9 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-05-24T23:35:49+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
_:n646ecd48c28a484d8fff3394ded3826axb9 <http://schema.org/text> "Si la glace descend c'est un défaut sur le module du moteur,sur les version descente a impulsion,pour ce qui est de la glace qui tombe dans la porte c'est un défaut de montage soit la fourchette de maintien a sauter dans la portière ou oublier au montage,je travail a l'assemblage des porte a l'usine de douai ou est née votre scénic." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-4929-ma-glace-cote-chauffeur-descend-tout-seul-lorsque-l-on-coupe-le-contact-oblige>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb1 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2012-08-28T21:10:30+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb1 <http://schema.org/name> "stage de récupération de points " <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb1 <http://schema.org/suggestedAnswer> _:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb3 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb1 <http://schema.org/suggestedAnswer> _:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb7 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,  \r\n\r\nJe viens de perdre 2 points (deux courriers reçus ce jour) sur mon capital de 6 points. \r\nIl ne me reste que 4 points.  \r\nEst-ce que en faisant un stage de récupération volontaire de 4 points, aurais-je 8 points ou reviendrais-je à 6 points? \r\nMerci d'avance pour votre reponse. \r\n\r\n @Patou@" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb10 <http://schema.org/name> "Tisuisse" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb2 <http://schema.org/name> "patou" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb3 <http://schema.org/author> _:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb4 <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb3 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2012-08-29T08:30:58+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb3 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour, \r\n\r\nTu es en 1ère année de probatoire ? si oui, tu ne remonteras qu'à 6 points et tu conserveras ces 6 points maxi jusqu'à la fin de ta période de probatoire.  \r\n\r\nJe crois comprendre que tu es à 4 points sur 6 et tu passeras, avec un stage, à 6 points sur 6 mais tu ne pourras pas bénéficier du bonus-points à chaque anniversaire de ton permis. De plus, à la fin de tes 3 ans de probatoire, tu passeras à 4 points sur 12 (sans stage) ou à 6 points sur 12 (avec ton stage) mais les 12 points sur 12 ne te seront acquis qu'après 3 ans sans aucun retrait de points, même pas 1 seul." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb5 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2012-08-28T21:10:30+02:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb5 <http://schema.org/text> "Alors,heureux?" <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb7 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2012-11-03T18:33:36+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb7 <http://schema.org/text> "On peut dire que chez vous c' est compliqué, en France.\r\nAu Canada, il n' y a pas de stage pour rattraper des points et puis quoi encore, c' était à vous de ne pas les perdre.\r\nAprès avoir perdu des points, ils sont remis automatiquement sur le permis deux ans après, si en deux ans vous les avez tous perdus, vous prendrez les transports en commun.\r\nJe n' ai jamais été dans ce cas, cela fait vintg ans que je n' ai pas eu de tickets, faites comme moi." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nb16c2798e0e94c0c88b0fa4d0582a2aaxb9 <http://schema.org/text> "Le délai de récupération des points n'est pas forcément de 2 ans. Voici ce que dit la loi LOPPSI II du 15 mars 2011 sur les délais de récupération des points : \r\n- perte d'1 seul point =&gt; 6 mois après la date d'effet du retrait, \r\n- perte de 2 points ou 3 points des amendes des classes 1 à 3 =&gt; 2 ans. \r\n- perte de 2 points et + des amendes des clases 4 ou 5 et des délits =&gt; 3 ans. \r\n\r\nCela suppose que durant des périodes aucun retrait de points ne doit intervenir, pas meme 1 seul. Le retrait, meme d'1 seul petit point, annule la période de 6 mois, 2 ans ou 3 ans et on repart à zéro et pour un nouveau délai de 3 ans dans tous les cas de figure, y compris si le délai précédent était de 6 mois. \r\n\r\nLe seul moyen de récupérer plus rapidement des points est de faire un stage et la loi sus-désignée, autorise 1 stage par an permettant de récupérer 4 points, de date à date, en laissant, entre le dernier jour du stage précédent et le 1er jour du stage suivant, un délai de 366 (367 les années bissextiles). Exemple, un stage effectué les 3 et 4 janvier 2012, le suivant ne pourra pas débuter avant le 5 janvier 2013. \r\n\r\nAttention : si le solde de points est tombé à zéro et que le titulaire du permis a reçu la LR/AR 48 SI du SNPC invalidant son permis, il ne pourra pas faire de stage.\r\nDe plus, un stage fait sur décision de justice ne rappoprtera pas les 4 points mais fait courir le délai d'1 an avant de faire un nouveau stage avec récupération de points.\r\n\r\nLa loi dit ça et pas autre chose." <https://auto.linternaute.com/forum/affich-65947-stage-de-recuperation-de-points>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour, \r\nJe vous expose mon problème nous avons poser une vasque sur un plan de travail le problème c’est que le trou pour la bonde n’est pas assez grand et la vaque a été fixée avec du silicone et du ni clou ni vis et je ne sais pas comment je peux résoudre ce problème sans abîmer le plan de travail \r\nMerci d’avance pour vos réponse ????" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb11 <http://schema.org/author> _:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb12 <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb11 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2019-12-16T01:03:31+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb11 <http://schema.org/text> "Le plan de travail je l’ai acheter à Castorama c’est un plan de travail pour cuisine à la base et le problème c’est que le trou pour la bonde n’est pas assez grand et on a fixé la vasque" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb13 <http://schema.org/text> "C'est le trou de la vasque qui n'est pas assez grand ?\r\nDans ce cas mettez une bonde plus petite, comme dit Kiduguen.\r\n\r\nSi c'est le trou du plan de travail, essayez comme je vous ai dit..." <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb3 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour\r\n\r\nVous avez fait passer la charrue avant les bœufs.  S'assurer du bon positionnement avant de coller.\r\nJe vois deux possibilités \r\nune lame fine de couteau (à jambon) ou un fil à couper le beurre (corde à piano).  Au fur et à mesure caler pour forcer l'écartement. \r\nCordialement.  \r\n \r\n" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb5 <http://schema.org/text> "Merci ????" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb7 <http://schema.org/text> "Bjr\r\n\r\nIl ne vous reste plus que le fil a couper le beurre ou le cutter.\r\nMais si bien collé,  ca va pas etre simple ! \r\n \r\n" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:nec6211c4dc304af18330791962b9b18exb9 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,\r\n\r\nIl est en quoi, votre plan de travail ?\r\nQuel est votre problème ? Vous devez agrandir le trou du plan de travail ?\r\nSi oui, essayez en perçant par en dessous avec une scie cloche... \r\n\r\nCdt\r\n \r\n" <https://bricolage.linternaute.com/forum/affich-121087564-vasque-poser-a-enlever>   .
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_:n0559d76ca3884fef95b2f3fef4186901xb0 <http://schema.org/name> "I can't use the new version of msn. - Windows Forum" <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
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_:nd3b43dff90a641c6bdca21b0352a3422xb1 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-02-27T12:22:33-05:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
_:nd3b43dff90a641c6bdca21b0352a3422xb1 <http://schema.org/name> "I can't use the new version of msn. Closed" <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
_:nd3b43dff90a641c6bdca21b0352a3422xb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Hello,\r\nI have a big problem with msn:I download the new version of msn,called Windows live messenger 2009.After downloading I couldn't use it.I entered my password and then I clicked to the sign in but it didn't sign in.\r\nAfter it I tried to delete and download the older version of msn but my computer wrote:You downloade a newer version of msn and you have to delete it,if you want to download the older one.But I deleted.\r\nOMG!Please somebody help me!I can't use my msn for a month." <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
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_:nd3b43dff90a641c6bdca21b0352a3422xb2 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2009-02-28T05:39:55-05:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
_:nd3b43dff90a641c6bdca21b0352a3422xb2 <http://schema.org/text> "you should update windows and download windows installer" <https://ccm.net/forum/affich-72988-i-can-t-use-the-new-version-of-msn>   .
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_:n9f358189a394490ab5a251ab3e7f88c3xb4 <http://schema.org/name> "If Gestalt is, &quot;The total is greater than the sum of its parts&quot;, then what is the word for &quot;The total is less than the sum of its parts?&quot; Thanks" <https://cjp.edu.py/quiz-answers/if-gestalt-is-the-total-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts-cmt7.html>   .
_:n9f358189a394490ab5a251ab3e7f88c3xb4 <http://schema.org/text> "If Gestalt is, &quot;The total is greater than the sum of its parts&quot;, then what is the word for &quot;The total is less than the sum of its parts?&quot; Thanks" <https://cjp.edu.py/quiz-answers/if-gestalt-is-the-total-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts-cmt7.html>   .
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_:n9f358189a394490ab5a251ab3e7f88c3xb5 <http://schema.org/text> " The term that represents the concept of &quot;The total is less than the sum of its parts&quot; is called &quot;reductive fallacy&quot; or &quot;reductionism.&quot;While Gestalt psychology emphasizes that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, there is an opposing viewpoint known as reductionism. Reductionism is a philosophical and scientific approach that suggests that complex systems or phenomena can be understood by reducing them to their individual components or basic principles. In this perspective, the total is considered to be less than the sum of its parts because it believes that the essence of the whole can be fully explained by analyzing its individual elements.Reductionism can be observed in various fields, such as biology, where complex organisms are studied by examining their biological structures and processes at the molecular or cellular level. It is also prevalent in physics, where complex phenomena are explained by breaking them down into fundamental particles and forces.The term &quot;reductive fallacy&quot; is sometimes used to describe the oversimplification or incomplete understanding that can result from reductionist thinking. It suggests that reducing a complex system or phenomenon to its individual parts may neglect the emergent properties or interactions that occur at higher levels of organization.Learn more about Reductionism here:https://brainly.com/question/30640793#SPJ11" <https://cjp.edu.py/quiz-answers/if-gestalt-is-the-total-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts-cmt7.html>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb1 <http://schema.org/name> "Redimensionner RTBox par double click gauche Résolu" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb1 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,\r\n\r\nEn VB6, la RTBox répond à un double click de la souris.\r\nCela me permettait de redimensionner ma richtextbox grâce au code ci-dessous :\r\n\r\nIf elargi = False Then 'si la la hauteur de la fenetre n'est pas agrandi, donc elargi = false\r\n            Hauteur = Me.rtb.Height\r\n            Me.rtb.Height = System.Windows.Forms.Screen.PrimaryScreen.WorkingArea.Height\r\n            elargi = True\r\n        Else\r\n            Me.rtb.Height = Hauteur\r\n            elargi = False\r\n        End If\r\n\r\nEn VBnet, la RTBox ne semble pas répondre à un double click\r\n\r\nMe le confirmez-vous ?\r\nSi oui, y a t'il une solution ? (je ne souhaite pas rajouter de boouton de commande).\r\n\r\nmerci de votre avis" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb11 <http://schema.org/text> "cela fonctionne en vbnet 10\r\npas en versdion 2003" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb3 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,\r\nun petit tour ici :\r\nhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/fr-fr/library/ms234980%28v=vs.90%29.aspx\r\nm'apprend (bien que je n'aie pas, moi, VB.Net) comment s'appelle sous VB.net l'évènement dblclick d'une richtextbox sous VB6....\r\nMais même sans ce &quot;petit tour&quot; :\r\nLe seul examen de ceci :\r\nhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/fr-fr/library/system.windows.forms.richtextbox%28v=vs.110%29.aspx\r\nque tu as, toi, sur ta machine, m'apprend tous les évènements que subit ce contrôle sous VB.Net . Et le nom de celui qui t'intéresse y est plus que &quot;parlant&quot; !" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb5 <http://schema.org/text> "Bonjour,\r\n\r\nJ'avais déjà pris connaissance du lien que vous m'avez signalé.\r\nIl ne semble pas avoir d'évenement associé à un double click sur la RTBox\r\n\r\nDouble-clic avec le bouton gauche de la souris --&gt; aucxun sur une RTbox\r\n\r\npar ailleurs, il informe d'une syntaxe :\r\n\r\n'Déclaration\r\nPublic Event DoubleClick As EventHandler\r\n'Utilisation\r\nDim instance As Control\r\nDim handler As EventHandler\r\n\r\nAddHandler instance.DoubleClick, handler\r\n\r\nJe ne sais pas comment utiliser cette syntaxe.\r\nOu la placer dans la class ?\r\nDans un module ?" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb7 <http://schema.org/text> "Que racontes-tu là ?\r\nEt pourquoi chercher à créer un évènement qui existe déjà et revêt la forme d'une procédure évènementielle du genre :\r\n\r\nPrivate Sub nom_du_contrôle_DoubleClick(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles nom_du_control.DoubleClick\r\n \r\nTu m'inquiètes, là ...\r\n" <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n8b6ddd0726ee4d4f98be59a3cba91b1exb9 <http://schema.org/text> "Private Sub nom_du_contrôle_DoubleClick(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles nom_du_control.DoubleClick\r\n\r\n\r\nje l'avais deja mis dans ma class avant je sollicite votre avis. Mais cela ne fonctionne pas ..." <https://codes-sources.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-10010914-redimensionner-rtbox-par-double-click-gauche>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb1 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Hi and happy new year all!</p>\n\n<p>I have a July 2021 model of the MaraX (red logo, OPV water redirected to pump directly from factory)</p>\n\n<p>I have connected a UART to the Gicar (and built a neat little project on top of that <a href=\"https://github.com/michelhe/pimp-my-marax\" rel=\"ugc noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ugc noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/michelhe/pimp-my-marax</a>)</p>\n\n<p>According to the readings, my Gicar software version is 1.23B (whereas I’ve seen records online of people who published their UART readings and saw a version 1.23 without the B which leads me to wonder if I got some beta version Gicar).</p>\n\n<p>The problem I am having is with steam pressure. It’s hardly maintainable above 1Bar during the froth, and often drops to 0.7-0.8 after 10s of frothing. (And yeah, I did read the entire 30 pages discussion regarding that topic on CoffeeForumsUK, my workflow is fine, i just can’t achieve the same numbers shown on youtube videos of the machine).</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/DavecUK\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@DavecUK</a> I’ve tried reaching out but it appears you are no longer on CoffeeForumsUK.  From that discussion it seems you have the knowledge of how to flash the firmware and also the firmware file of the Gicar? I wish to test a different version because I believe the target boiler temperatures of my Gicar are different: 126 steam boost and 112 during “idle” (instead of 128&amp;116 shown in official lelit video) and I believe this is the reason I’m seeing decreased pressure.</p>\n\n<p>If <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/DavecUK\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@DavecUK</a>  or anyone else here have some documentations and firmware files for the MaraX gicar I would be glad if you could share with me. I have the technical knowledge (and access to flash programmers at work) so I can easily do it myself, I just need firmware files and proper instructions from people who’v done it before.</p> \n\n<p>Thanks and happy new year friends! 2022 ^^</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb101 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb102 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb101 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-09T15:45:05+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb101 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/49\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"3993\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> I had a good look everything looks fine on the top of the boiler…even though I am surprised the mirror was misting at all. It could be you have a control box fault which is causing the odd behaviour.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb102 <http://schema.org/name> "DavecUK" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb103 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb104 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb103 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T13:41:55+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb103 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/Doram\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@Doram</a></p>\n\n<p>Lelit got back to me:</p>\n<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p>We checked your video, it seems that the manometer is not adjusted correctly. If you want to solve this issue, you need to contact your reseller for a proper check of the machine and we can support your reseller in this issue if he needs our technical advise</p></div></blockquote>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb105 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb106 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb105 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T20:33:02+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb105 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/52\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"4173\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Lelit got back to me:<br>\nWe checked your video, it seems that the manometer is not adjusted correctly. If you want to solve this issue, you need to contact your reseller for a proper check of the machine and we can support your reseller in this issue if he needs our technical advise</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>Well that’s good, isn’t it? You have an acknowledgement from Lelit that something is wrong and the retailer is responsible for resolving it, with Lelit’s support. I think this is a very good start.</p>\n\n<p>If I were you, I would take the machine back to the retailer, show them the response from Lelit and walk away, giving them an opportunity to find and resolve the problem.</p>\n\n<p>If the manometer is indeed broken, fixing it might solve everything. If it isn’t broken, they will have to admit that something else is wrong and fix that. Either way - they hopefully won’t just give it back and say that nothing is wrong.</p>\n\n<p>Because you have access to the gicar box and group thermometer you could, potentially, find out if everything is working as it should and it’s just the manometer, or if the machine is running at lower pressure than it should and the manometer reflects that, but given the age of the machine and the reply from Lelit - I would let the retailer deal with it. Hopefully they will fix it or give you another machine.</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb106 <http://schema.org/name> "Doram" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb107 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb108 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb107 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T21:54:56+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb107 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Hmm,..  however in this post the OP says he’s not happy with steam performance…</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/40\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\">https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/40</a></p>\n\n<p>So maybe not only the manometer?</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb108 <http://schema.org/name> "MediumRoastSteam" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb109 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb109 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb110 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb109 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T22:03:14+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb109 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/54\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"4250\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> So maybe not only the manometer?</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>Seems a logical conclusion….</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb11 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb12 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb11 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-01T13:45:58+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb11 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/5\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"2811\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Hey guys, as suggested I made a video of my workflow: <a href=\"https://youtu.be/k9PP3tXeIFw\" rel=\"ugc noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ugc noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Youtube</a></p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>From your video I can clearly see that your machine is kept at a lower pressure than mine. Looking at your manometer, I can see that before you start your first shot you are below 0.5 bar. You then get a boost, but even at the peak you are lower than 1.5 bar, and as soon as you start steaming you go down to 1 bar or less. No wonder you are getting weak steaming performance.</p>\n\n<p>Compare this to my machine in the video below. In this video pressure before the shot is ~1 bar. This is higher than normal, because I didn’t let the machine settle completely from cold. The machine is usually ~0.5 bar before I start a shot. More importantly, look what happens on the manometer after the shot. Steam boost brings it to around 1.5 bar, and it stays there during steaming, giving a much better performance than what you get at 1 bar and below.</p>\n\n<p>I very much doubt the cause for this would be the change of settings in the firmware. We have seen people with this issue. As I said in the first post, I put my money on the issue being caused by a temp sensor (but I have not had it myself, so can’t tell you from my own experience).</p>\n\n<p>P.S. What water are you using in the machine? Could it be that you water is hard and you have scale on the temp sensor? Also, what is your brew temp switch set to (the one with zero, one and two behind the drip tray)? I see you have a thermometer on the group - do the readings you get from it correspond correctly to the temp setting you have selected?</p>\n\n<p>The Gicar can also be the problem, but as you have access to the readings you can check if they are faulty. <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/4\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"2753\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a> is better placed to tell you what you need to look for in the settings.</p>\n\n<p>Here is a video from mine for comparison:</p>\n\n<p><span data-s9e-mediaembed=\"youtube\" style=\"display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px\"><span style=\"display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%\"><iframe allowfullscreen=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" scrolling=\"no\" style=\"background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2fZJ4bL7P00/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/2fZJ4bL7P00\"></iframe></span></span></p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb111 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb112 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb111 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T23:49:10+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb111 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/54\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\">https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/54</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/MediumRoastSteam\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@MediumRoastSteam</a></p>\n\n<p>Honestly? The MaraX in general could just have poor steam performance (I came from a Lelit Anita PL042TEMD which had an adjustable steam temperature so I always used it at 132-134c).<br>\n I don’t really have another MaraX handy to compare the steaming experience to my machine.</p>\n" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb113 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Oh and BTW <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/DavecUK\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@DavecUK</a> for some reason I don’t have reply&amp;like buttons in this thread, but I do got em’ in other threads. weird.</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb115 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-10T23:57:52+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb115 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/54\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"4250\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> So maybe not only the manometer?</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>You know my money isn’t on the manometer either, but -</p>\n\n<p>Lelit only saw the time lapse video of the manometer and already acknowledged something is wrong. This is more than some people with similar issues managed to get from their retailers, who refused to acknowledge a problem.</p>\n\n<p>Once you have that acknowledgment, it’s up to the retailer and Lelit to find a solution. To the OP it won’t make a difference if they sort it by fixing the manometer, the probes, the box or something else, as long as they fix it.</p>\n\n<p>And who knows, maybe it is the manometer. It’s their machine so maybe they know something.</p>\n\n<p>OP said steam performance was disappointing, but he is comparing it to a machine in the office which might be a commercial beast, so I’d say anything is possible.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb117 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-11T02:49:51+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb117 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Please update us on the final outcome.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb119 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-11T07:45:00+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb119 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/57\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"4262\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a></p>\n\n<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/57\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"4262\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> for some reason I don’t have reply&amp;like buttons in this thread,</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>Keep refreshing, navigate back to the main page, refresh again. It’s hit and miss for me. It’s working now, but there are times of the day where it’s infuriating. Saying this, it seems to have got a lot better since Dave removed PM functionality.</p>\n\n<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/115-random-issues-on-forum-no-likequotereplyphotos-is-it-just-me/110\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"3558\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> I get the same issue with missing “like” and “reply” buttons on my MacBook Pro too. Using Safari.</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>Check the thread above, there’s a whole discussion about that there.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb121 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T08:37:22+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb121 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Retailer now claims that Lelit instructed him (based on my videos) that my gicar card needs to be replaced. 🤷🏼‍♂️.</p>\n\n<p>For me it still looks like a mechanical failure somewhere in the machine either in the maometer or maybe even the vacuum breaker? Idk anymore</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb123 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb124 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb123 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T09:34:07+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb123 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/61\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5469\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> - my bets are on the Gicar box. The manometer seems to be under reading, but the manometer does not affect the functionality of the machine. It’s annoying though. As with the steaming on the mirror… yeah, something might need tightening somewhere, but I don’t think it’s an issue as such either.</p>\n\n<p>It’s a shame the retailer doesn’t simply replace your machine. Happy customer = repeat business + good reputation. But what do I know.</p> \n\n<p>Good luck.</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb125 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb126 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb125 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T10:00:06+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb125 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/61\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5469\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> This would be my guess for what is causing the problems. I suspect when it is replaced, the machine will react as you want</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb126 <http://schema.org/name> "DavecUK" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb127 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb127 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb128 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb127 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T10:56:47+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb127 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/63\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5479\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/MediumRoastSteam\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@MediumRoastSteam</a></p> \n\n<p>Why is this the culprit in your opinion? as I see it it’s just a PCB with deterministic software flashed on it, what could be “wrong” with it that it needs replacing?</p>\n\n<p>Honestly, I trust a computer to do its task more rather than trusting some other mechincal component to be properly seated at the factory.</p>\n\n<p>Even if the manometer in my machine is under reading, that doesn’t explain the huge drop during the frothing while others confirm that their manometer barely budges from 1.5 while they steam.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb128 <http://schema.org/name> "MisterH1337" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb129 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb129 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb130 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb129 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T11:03:41+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb129 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/64\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5482\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> ask your retailer for a replacement machine if under warranty</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb13 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb13 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb14 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb13 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-01T14:29:52+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb13 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/5\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"2811\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> I’m wondering if firmware is updated and whether a slight change to the routine can help.</p>\n\n<p>Before steaming, try a flush through the group…just 30 or 40 ml, wait until the steam boiler needle starts to rise….then begin steaming. Try and steam enough milk for both drinks at once.</p>\n\n\n" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb130 <http://schema.org/name> "drdre89" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb131 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb131 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb132 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb131 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T11:33:48+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb131 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/64\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5482\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Even if the manometer in my machine is under reading, that doesn’t explain the huge drop during the frothing while others confirm that their manometer barely budges from 1.5 while they steam.</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>A faulty Gicar box would, however.</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb133 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb133 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb134 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb133 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T12:21:08+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb133 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/64\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5482\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Why is this the culprit in your opinion? as I see it it’s just a PCB with deterministic software flashed on it, what could be “wrong” with it that it needs replacing?</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<ul><li>Information from the temperature sensors has to be interpreted by the Gicar</li>\n<li>There are some mechanical relays that must operate</li>\n<li>Components can and do fail which may further affect operation, probe logic, fill logic etc. Imagine if the tank low signal was occasionally interpreted as empty by the box for very brief periods, this would create a fault condition which would generate no error code.</li>\n<li>The box may have been flashed incorrectly</li>\n<li>Pin connections on the box might be faulty and subsequent connectors on the internal boards may have a dry joint</li></ul>\n\n<p>I think during the Pandemic, lots of things suffered and there may have been issues around production, or batches of components purchased from china etc.. I’m just guessing with this,</p>\n\n<p>So in my experience there are a lot of things that can happen and Gicar boxes today are not a 90% chip on board solution, it has been developed on from the logic used in the early RL30 boxes.. The Gicar used in the minima not only has PID logic, but display driver logic, power triacs and other things inside, which makes it twice the size of other Gicar boxes.</p>\n\n<p>The Lelit Elizabeth, which is super reliable in the terms were talking about has the standard basic Gicar functions, but all the clever stuff is controlled by the LCC, which is a mostly Chip on board device with a 64 bit risc architecture and extremely reliable. I have heard of the odd LCC failing but it’s very rare.</p>\n\n<p>Then you take a 3 group Orchstrale board as used on Vesuvius, Evo Leva and Vostok. That board is essentially unchanged from when it was first manufactured as a commercial board some 15 years ago. ACS just flash custom firmware to it. It’s expensive, no modern doodads…but immensely reliable, almost bulletproof.</p>\n\n<p>I still want them to Make a MaraX plus,, with Elizabeth steam boiler 300 or 400 ml brew boiler, an LCC with Elizabeth logic and a much simplified Gicar….plus of course a solenoid E61….if I ever get out there post Covid, it’s something I will press again with Mauro.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb134 <http://schema.org/name> "DavecUK" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb135 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb135 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb136 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb135 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T12:49:10+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb135 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/67\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5491\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a> I still want them to Make a MaraX plus,, with Elizabeth steam boiler 300 or 400 ml brew boiler, an LCC with Elizabeth logic and a much simplified Gicar….plus of course a solenoid E61….if I ever get out there post Covid, it’s something I will press again with Mauro</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>Why do you say those things??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😊👍</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb136 <http://schema.org/name> "MediumRoastSteam" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb137 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb137 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb138 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb137 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T13:19:07+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb137 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/68\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5494\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> In the hope that they will listen….because I know it would be a super popular machine.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb138 <http://schema.org/name> "DavecUK" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb139 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://schema.org/Answer> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb139 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb140 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb139 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T17:23:55+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb139 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/69\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5504\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a> - I hope Mauro is reading this. That would be an excellent choice for someone like myself. Sleek, compact, low maintenance yet very capable.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb141 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb142 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb141 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-22T20:40:51+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb141 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/64\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5482\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Why is this the culprit in your opinion? as I see it it’s just a PCB with deterministic software flashed on it, what could be “wrong” with it that it needs replacing?</p>\n\n<p>Honestly, I trust a computer to do its task more rather than trusting some other mechincal component to be properly seated at the factory.</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>I don’t know nearly enough to understand <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/67\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5491\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a>’s technical explanation, but it seems that a lot can go wrong with the box. It also makes sense to assume that Lelit are not stupid enough to tell the retailer to replace the box when there is no chance that this is the cause of the problem (It might be something else, but at least we know they think this is the next reasonable/cost effective thing to try).</p>\n\n<p>But more important than the above is that you have a retailer and manufacturer that acknowledge a problem and take responsibility. Let’s see then if that fixes it or if after that they will have to do something else. I think everyone in this thread (and probably others lurking) is interested to find out what the outcome will be and where the cause of the fault is. I am looking forward to hearing how this pans out.</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb142 <http://schema.org/name> "Doram" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb143 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-04T16:09:39+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb143 <http://schema.org/text> "<p>Would like to add that I’d love for updates from <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/MisterH1337\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@MisterH1337</a> on this whether replacing the gicar card resolves this.  Selfishly since I have skin in this game as my machine seems act similarly 😀.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb145 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb146 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb145 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-06T13:17:40+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb145 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/72\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"7542\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">fl13dl1c3</a></p> \n\n<p>You got it, I’m still waiting for a update from the official retailer that the gicar was delivered to come and do the swap.</p>\n\n<p>I’ll ping them next week when I done with covid (no worries I’ve had hursher flus in my life but must adhere to sufficient self isolation)</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb146 <http://schema.org/name> "MisterH1337" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb147 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb148 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb147 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T13:12:50+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb147 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/72\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"7542\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">fl13dl1c3</a> <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/71\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5544\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">Doram</a> <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/70\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5526\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/69\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"5504\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a></p>\n\n<p>Update to these who were active in my thread:</p>\n\n<p>I’m at the retailer repairshop now, and we’ve trying everything and nothing seems to help even a little:</p>\n\n<ul><li>Replacing the Gicar</li>\n<li>Replacing the steam valve entirely</li>\n<li>Replacing the safety thermostat (mine was rated for 140c and other MaraX in their lab had 165c ones)</li></ul>\n\n<p>They totally agree that the machine is not functioning correctly and the steam loses too much pressure even in steam mode.</p>\n\n<p>They sent an email to Lelit requesting them to authorize a new machine for me, (they want Lelit to refund them first).. If Lelit would decline they will keep on inspecting it, but they are out of ideas.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb149 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb150 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb149 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T14:22:29+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb149 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/74\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9871\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> Did they replace the thermoprobe itself and of course check carefully all the wiring and any connectors?</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb15 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb16 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb15 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-01-01T14:39:49+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb15 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/DavecUK\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@DavecUK</a> That is actually my normal routine, I normally make one drink everymoring to myself and I  flush some water through the group before prepping the shot so the pressure will build up, but as <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/Doram\" class=\"UserMention\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">@Doram</a> said my machine simply can’t maintain a higher pressure than what is shown.</p> \n\n<p>I’m wondering if the temp sensor could indeed be faulty, is the temp sensor you’re referring to the one that sits on top of the boiler? what does it probe? the HX or the steam boiler?<br>\nI have access to the readings and keep them on an historical influxdb and grafana :<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/r22g5Yj/image.png\" title=\"\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p>What kind of readings will be a tell if something is faulty?<br>\nRegarding the group temp sensor, yep sometimes there is some variance with what the UART data says, with the maximum offset being up to 5 degrees. but when its stable the offset is around 1c.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb150 <http://schema.org/name> "DavecUK" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb151 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb152 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb151 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T15:31:51+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb151 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/74\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9871\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> did they try replacing the manometer in the case it was reading incorrectly?  I recall emails with Lelit mentioning there was some tolerance with the manometers as well.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb153 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb154 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb153 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T17:28:13+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb153 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/75\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9880\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a></p> \n\n<p>Yep, whatever it is, its not 90% electronics related.</p>\n\n<p>Their next guess was the heating element, but they sent me back until Lelit responds and promised to look after me even at a cost of replacing the entire machine or boiler.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb155 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb156 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb155 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T17:29:31+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb155 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/76\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9892\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">fl13dl1c3</a></p> \n\n<p>They refuse to believe the manometer has tolerance, I showed them the mails from Lelit on the matter.</p>\n\n<p>My gut feeling is that Lelit will tell them to replace the manometer next. Lucky for me that visiting them is 30minutes drive for me and I can work from their caffee so I don’t lose a workday</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb157 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/78\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9915\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> - that seems a lot of effort on both parts, and we all know time is money. I’m surprised they don’t replace the machine for you (i.e.: happy customer) and then deal with fixing your machine later and sell as refurb or something like that, or at least give you a machine they use in the office for the time being.</p> \n\n<p>But… my fingers are crossed for you. I hope there’s a resolution soon!</p> " <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb159 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T17:55:22+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb159 <http://schema.org/text> "<p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/77\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9914\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> It won’t be the heating element, but if they have changed the Gicar Box, really the only thing that remains is the thermal probes.</p>\n\n<p>I’m trying to think of a situation where it could be Mechanical, and there might be one, but in that case you would get excessive temperatures…which is not what’s happening.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb161 <http://schema.org/author> _:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb162 <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb161 <http://schema.org/dateCreated> "2022-02-24T18:59:40+01:00"^^<http://schema.org/Date> <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
_:n6248eace317344568360fa5ad94d7cecxb161 <http://schema.org/text> "<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/78\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9915\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MisterH1337</a> <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186/76\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"ugc noopener\" target=\"_self\">fl13dl1c3</a></p>\n\n<p>They refuse to believe the manometer has tolerance, I showed them the mails from Lelit on the matter.</p>\n\n<p>My gut feeling is that Lelit will tell them to replace the manometer next. Lucky for me that visiting them is 30minutes drive for me and I can work from their caffee so I don’t lose a workday</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>I am with <a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/79\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"9916\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">MediumRoastSteam</a> -on this.  It’s great that they are taking responsibility and willing to go to this length to try and find the cause of the problem, but as a customer and owner of a new machine you don’t have to participate in this ordeal. IMO you have given them enough time and opportunity to find the problem and fix it. It isn’t fair to drag you to even more experiments and problem solving. If they couldn’t make your machine work by now - for me you have earned a replacement, and in my view it’s long overdue.</p>" <https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/186-lelit-marax-firmware-flashing/1>   .
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